If you voluntarily do not follow, then you fall down. That is in ignorance,

Sri Sri Radha-Damodara arrived in Their bus this morning. Many devotees from Chicago, Ann Arbor, Toronto, St. Louis and Boston have come. Driving out for the morning walk the city appeared dirty and unkempt, with factories almost everywhere making tires, car wheels and other components for the automobile industry. Ambarisha prabhu, a native of Detroit, accompanied Prabhupada. As we drove along, we noticed a big construction going up near the city center on a site by the waterside. One of the devotees said that the new development, called the Renaissance Center, is being financed by Ambarisha's uncle, Henry Ford II, in hopes of reviving the decaying city. He told Srila Prabhupada that Ambarisha's uncle was making a "billion dollar project." Prabhupada's immediate response was, "Why not at Mayapur?" We walked around a park on Belle Isle in East Detroit, but it was quite depressing?dirty, overgrown and little used, with a dried-up lake bed and a fancy looking building that turned out to be a casino. Across the Detroit River we could see Canada. Dhrishtadyumna Swami is now in charge of the Radha-Damodara Party and he briefly reported to Srila Prabhupada on their activities. The men have practically doubled their book selling and collections since their return from India. Srila Prabhupada was pleased indeed to hear the news. Satsvarupa Maharaja and his traveling party also accompanied His Divine Grace and as we walked he asked a question. "Sometimes devotees think that when Lord Kapila teaches there is devotional service in ignorance and in passion and in goodness, that that may mean your own disciples too. But then some devotees say, 'No, we're above that designation. It's not mixed devotional service, even though we're neophytes.'?" "If you voluntarily do not follow, then you fall down. That is in ignorance," Srila Prabhupada replied. Makhanlal prabhu, the president of St. Louis temple, joined in. "So where that is described in the Third Canto, Part Four, where it is described about devotional service in ignorance, passion and goodness and so forth, that has nothing to do with your disciples then?" "Who is my disciple?" Prabhupada asked him. "First of all let him follow strictly the disciplined rules." "As long as one is following, then he is..." Makhanlal said. "Then he is all right," Prabhupada said. "Above those lower levels?" "Oh, yes," Prabhupada affirmed. "Otherwise, why there is need of regulative principles? He is immediately liberated. If he thinks that, 'Because I have taken to, I am liberated,' then why the rules and regulations?" "But as long as he follows the rules and regulations," Makhanlal continued, "he comes to the brahma-bhuta platform, immediately?" "Yes. Bhagavad-gita it is said, mam ca yo 'vyabhicarena?unalloyed. Bhakti-yogena sevate, then he's liberated. If it is vyabhicarena, sometimes falls down, sometimes... then it is within sattva-guna, rajo-guna, tamo-guna. The word is mam ca yo avyabhicarena bhakti-yogena?pure bhakti." "Without any falldown," I repeated. Makhanlal sought a further definition. "Falldown means deviation from the orders of the spiritual master." "Yes," Prabhupada told us. "That is vyabhicarena, that is not avyabhicarena. If you are subjected to the attraction of maya, that is vyabhicarena." "If somebody is following the instructions, but if there's attraction for maya..." Makhanlal asked. Prabhupada shook his head. "That cannot be. Maybe in the beginning due to past habits, but that must be nil very soon. Otherwise he's not following. Just like fan switched off may move for a little, but not that it will go on moving. Must stop. Switch is off. And if it is going on, then the switch is not yet off." Arriving back at the temple, Srila Prabhupada accepted Satsvarupa Maharaja's invitation to visit his mobile temple. Satsvarupa informed Prabhupada that they also have another five vans, three of which the Library Party use for their college and university preaching, and the other two are for fund raising to support the Library Party devotees. Altogether he has about twenty men on his program, including the newly joined Eugene, the ex-priest from Los Angeles. He moves from city to city visiting temples and devotees in his GBC zone as he does university programs. Srila Prabhupada stepped inside the twenty-eight foot long caravan-style vehicle. He sat for a few minutes on a cushion on a raised portion just behind the driver's seat as Satsvarupa Maharaja informed him of its facilities. The van is complete with a shower, toilet and kitchen and has racks for Srila Prabhupada's books and tapes. Sri Sri Gaura-Nitai were installed less than a month ago. The pujari opened the altar curtains to reveal Their Lordships and Srila Prabhupada immediately offered his full prostrated obeisances, much to everyone's surprise and pleasure. In three minutes the visit was over, and accompanied by a lively kirtana party Prabhupada entered the temple for the rest of the morning program.