Krishna dasa Babaji Maharaja would visit him daily. Krishna dasa Babaji was very respected in all the Gaudiya Mathas. Together they would chant the Shad-goswamy-ashtakam very beautifully. I remember during this time that he used to call me Prabha. Often he would joke with me, tease me and tell me to sit down. Prabhupada preached to me, saying, "Without hari-nama, nothing is good." Sometimes he would gravely instruct, "Prabha beti (daughter), hari-bhajana, hari-nama first and then seva." He was always doing high bhajana himself. He told me, "If all day you are only working, then this is not good. Always do kirtana. Don't waste any time."
While he was living there he was still wearing grihastha-vesa. Then one day he came back from Mathura as a sannyasi, in red cloth with danda. He had received the renounced order from his godbrother and friend, Srila Kesava Maharaja. After this, he no longer allowed me to come to visit much there or to cook personally for him. He was very strict and very grave at this time, doing strong vratas in his behavior and sadhana. Since I was still considered a young lady, though I was a widow living in Vrindavana since age 25, he would not associate with me as before. All of that time prior to his going to America, Prabhupada never would talk to me because he was a sannyasi and I was like a family member. Whenever he had any guests or was giving pravacana (discourses) in his room, only reluctantly would he let me sit in the far corner of the room. Even then he carefully instructed me not to speak.