Jadurani: Once in New York in 1967, Prabhupada called me into his room after his darshan. I was one of the devotees from Boston who had come to see him. He handed me a print of Radha and Krishna and the eight gopis and asked me to make a four-foot by five-foot painting of that. We didn't have the Brahma-samhita at that time, but he began explaining from the Brahma-samhita how in the spiritual world the palaces are made of touchstones and the cows give nectar that can fulfill anyone's desire and the ground is muddy with the milk of the cows. The trees are wish-fulfilling trees that supply all eatables upon demand, and the gopis, the associates of Radharani, serve Radharani and Krishna by fanning Them, singing and dancing for Them, and offering Them food. I couldn't relate to the exalted description. As I looked at the print, my response to those beautiful words was 'How come the gopis aren't looking at Radha and Krishna? Shouldn't they be looking at Them?' (They were holding their paraphernalia and looking in different directions.) Prabhupada said, "When you're dancing, you don't always have to look." Then he told me to make Krishna a little smaller. He said, "Krishna looks a little fatty there and He's too tall. Make Him a little thinner and shorter." I said, 'Those flowers there, they're all blobs', because the artist hadn't made details. 'What flowers should I put there?' He said, "You can transport any flower to Vrindavan." I said, 'I heard that Krishna's eyes are red.' He said, "Reddish, reddish-black." I asked him, 'You say that Krishna's the colour of a fresh rain cloud, but what color is that?' Prabhupada lowered his head and put his hand on it. Then he gradually brought his head up and his hand down. In great humility he said, "They say Krishna is the color of a fresh rain cloud, but I do not know what color that is." One amazing thing about Prabhupada was that even an ordinary person could see him make simple gestures and hear him say simple things and get great realizations about the nature of a pure devotee. He emanated those truths by his glance and his words. You felt that he could see Krishna.