Nanda Kishor Dasa: I first saw Prabhupada in the summer of 1967 on a television show called The Alan Burke Show. Alan Burke was a thin, frustrated-old-poet type, who smoked and wore a goatee. He was an interviewer who, after about a fifteen-minute interview, would start insulting his subject, "You are a stupid this and that." He seemed like somebody who never made it but his show was interesting. My mother and I would watch it together. One week Burke interviewed a yogini who talked about yoga and who appeared on the show along with some devotees who chanted the maha-mantra. The next week the same devotees came with Srila Prabhupada. On this show, Alan Burke talked about cosmic consciousness and Prabhupada talked about yoga. I had no idea that yoga had anything to do with religion or the laws of God. Most of what Prabhupada said I could not understand. I was a spaced-out hippie and Prabhupada's accent was thick, but there were two things I remember. One was that Alan Burke did not insult Prabhupada like he did the usual guests, but he did have a criticism. He said, "Well, if this movement is spiritual, why do you have a car? How is that spiritual?" Prabhupada said, "If a car is used in Krishna consciousness, then it is a spiritual car." I said, "Wow! A spiritual car! That's incredible!" The second thing that struck me was the mantra. Prabhupada said, "Hare Krishna Hare Krishna, Krishna Krishna Hare Hare, Hare Rama Hare Rama, Rama Rama Hare Hare," and I said, "Wow, that's far out!" It was the reaction of a hippy. It was more than a year later that I finally came to the movement.