Jyotirmayi dasi: When I invited him to come, a Christian priest, I explained to him about monotheism in India, and he was very astonished because most people think that Indian religion is only polytheist. So when he heard that there was also monotheism, only the worship of one God, he was very, very pleased. And then I explained to him about how bhakti was the devotional part of the various schools of thought in India and that it was so close to the Christian understanding of love of God. So he was very, very pleased; and when I invited him to come to Prabhupada, he said yes, yes, he wanted to come. And this time when Prabhupada talked with him, he had a very nice and sweet and gentle talk with him and not the heavy talks that he had sometimes like, for example, when he was talking with the Cardinal Danielou. Then he talked also with a gentleman called Mr. Geoffroy.
He was the founder of La Vie Claire, which means the clear life, the pure life, which was the first vegetarian health food store that we had in France. So this was a very, very wonderful personality. It was Prthuputra who made him come, and Prabhupada had a very long talk with him about eating pure food. Mr. Geoffroy, of course, was explaining how they wanted to give very pure food in their stores. Prabhupada, he wanted us to have a farm at that time. We didn't have it yet, we didn't have New Mayapur.
So Prabhupada was telling him, "So we will have honey in our farm. So we can bring our honey and you can sell it. And we will have milk. So you can also sell our milk." But Mr. Geoffroy was saying, "Yeah, but the problem is that it's going to be very polluted." And Prabhupada said, "No, we are not going to use pesticides so it's going to be pure." But the gentleman said, "But even if the grass is pure, the air is impure. So it will go on being polluted." Then Prabhupada said, "Well, that's the reason that it's impossible to have everything perfectly pure. So that's why we are offering everything we are eating to Krishna. That's the way to have things perfectly pure. Otherwise it's impossible in this material world to have completely pure food."
Yogesvara had tried to get some people from politics to come see Prabhupada, and one of them agreed to come. He was called Mr. Mesmin, and he was a senator. What was very interesting was that Prabhupada, whenever he was talking, especially with Christians but also with politicians, he always wanted to talk about not killing the cows, not killing animals. So they had a discussion and Prabhupada was telling this gentleman that "If you absolutely want to eat cows, then just wait until their natural death and then you can eat them." And we were very surprised because it was the first time that he heard Prabhupada mentioning something like that. But Prabhupada said, "In that way, you will always have meat to eat because there will always be cows dying and you don't have to kill them." So that was very surprising also to the gentleman, who certainly didn't put it in practice. But it was an interesting point that Prabhupada could consider, "OK, if you absolutely want to eat meat, then do but at least wait until their natural death."