Uttamasloka: The next year, we were in Toronto when Prabhupada came again. By this time, we had the new temple building, and Prabhupada came there. I was president of Chicago, and Madhavananda had taken over from Govardhan in Detroit. At one point there was some discussion about how the Indian community wasn't happy in Detroit, and Prabhupada said, "Can't Govardhan?" I said, 'Govardhan isn't president there anymore, Prabhupada'. He said, "Who is?" I said, 'Madhavananda's president'. He said, "Why is he president?" I said, 'Well, Govardhan was having trouble, he wasn't chanting his rounds'. He said, "How do you know he wasn't chanting his rounds?" I said, 'Well, Prabhupada, he said he wasn't.' Prabhupada said, "At least he is honest enough to admit it. You say you are. How do I know you are? Maybe you're lying." I said, 'But Prabhupada, he wasn't coming to the morning program.' He said, "You have to encourage him. Put him back as president. He did such good work there. He should be temple president." So Govardhan got reinstated as temple president. As it happens, I had taken over Sri Govinda's position as temple president of Chicago. Sri Govinda met Prabhupada in New York hoping that, like Govardhan, he would be reinstated. But Prabhupada said, "Sometimes change is good. Let's leave things the way they are."